Deepwater Knights - Faction

Grinding Deepwater Knights in Paineel for Fiery Avenger, at ten faction a kill against a four thousand point hole. Includes the one named worth a hundred and why the wiki's advice is wrong.

July 4, 2026
Episode15

Deepwater Knights is the gate on Fiery Avenger, the stage of the Paladin sword line after SoulFire, and there is no clever turn in for it. You go to Paineel and kill the city, ten faction at a time, against a hole that starts at four thousand points for an Iksar. This is the video that maps the efficient loop and warns you off the wiki, which is wrong about this in several places.

Deepwater Knights Paineel Fiery Avenger
Per kill10 faction, or 100 from the one named
Starting holeAbout -4,000 as an Iksar
NeededWarmly or better
Named respawnAbout 6 minutes

The Loop

Cleric guild, the named, and back.

  • The cleric guild area holds roughly nine killable mobs, mostly 10 faction each with a few of the low level guards at 5, and that is the bulk of the route.
  • One named is worth 100, equal to ten normal kills, on about a six minute respawn in the open world.
  • Fight out to him, kill him, and loop back through the guild. That is the best route I found.
  • Teleporters link the guild areas, so the loop is shorter than the map makes it look.
  • The Shadowknight guild room is empty. Do not bother walking it.
  • The Necromancer guild has four guards and a roamer, but they are casters and largely not worth the time.
  • Guild masters cannot be killed. Ignore them entirely.

Use the lowest difficulty. Faction does not scale with it, so there is no reason to make the fights harder.

The Size of the Job

Be honest with yourself before starting.

  • Iksar carries a racial penalty here, putting the starting position around minus four thousand.
  • At 10 a kill that is a real grind, and I am not joking about it: this is hours of work, not minutes.
  • On live servers this is trivial. The named there gives something like ten thousand faction, so one or two kills finishes it. Legends normalised him to 100.
  • Many of the guards are gray and pose no threat, so it is time rather than difficulty.
  • Some guards are undead, so slay undead procs will fire and speed things along.
  • Come at a decent level anyway. I would not have wanted to walk in here before this point, gray guards or not.

This is the gate on the next video. Deepwater Knights exists here purely to open Fiery Avenger, which after the detail of SoulFire turns out to be a simple quest: kill two dragons for the books, then the lich, the Oracle and Sky.

The Faction You Break

One casualty, two ways to fix it.

  • Heretics drops as Deepwater rises, since Heretics is the population of Paineel you are killing.
  • Kill kobolds in the Warrens to bring it back.
  • Or turn in Kobold Molars from the Warrens or Stonebrunt Mountains.
  • Plenty of other factions rise alongside Deepwater while you work, so the net is better than it sounds.

Ignore the Wiki Here

Checked on camera and found wanting.

  • It suggests killing sharks for barnacle armour, and I could not find anything matching that description.
  • It lists a Keeper of Tomes that does not spawn.
  • It omits the one named actually worth killing, which is the single most useful thing on the route.
  • My read is that it was copied from the P99 wiki and never checked against Legends. I might fix it, though editing a wiki is a lot of work and it is not really my thing.

Deepwater Knights at a Glance

  1. Go to Paineel on the lowest difficulty.
  2. Clear the cleric guild, about nine mobs at 10 each.
  3. Kill the named worth 100 every six minutes.
  4. Loop between the two rather than wandering.
  5. Skip the Shadowknight guild. It is empty.
  6. Expect four thousand points of grinding as an Iksar.
  7. Repair Heretics afterwards with Warrens kobolds or Kobold Molars.
  8. Do not trust the wiki page for this faction.
YouTube Generated Transcript

Hello and welcome to EverQuest Legends in beta. Today we are working on our deepwater faction uh with the uh deepwater knights. And uh the best way I’ve found so far is to just go into Paineel and slaughter everybody. We’re getting uh 10 uh per. Now, I’m Xzar, so I got like an a modifier negative. Uh so I don’t know 100% sure where my my faction is if I switch out of Xzar, but you see here we’re also getting uh a bunch of other uh positive factions, but we are getting a negative Heretics faction. Now, Heretics is the uh the population of Paineel. Uh so they you know, that’s that’s that’s the only negative to this is you’re losing that faction, but uh interestingly enough uh not so bad. Now, this guy right here um Idetiamasugor whatever, right? On live servers, he gives like 10,000 or something like that deepwater faction. So, you can just come and kill him once and you’re done. Uh but uh they they changed it here, so he only gives a a normalized amount. Now, to fix your Heretics faction, you can go into the Warrens and uh kill Kobolds and you’ll uh get your Heretic faction. You can also turn in these Kobold molars from the Warrens or from Stone uh Stoneburnt, Stone uh yeah, Stoneburnt. >> [laughter] >> The mountains, right? On the other side of Warrens. Uh you can kill Kobolds there, you’ll get faction with the Heretics also. And you can kind of go through that also. Uh so those are the options, but uh I’m going to show a few spawns here. This is this obviously just taking forever cuz I don’t have any uh I don’t have any two-handed slash since I’m using my Soulfire, uh which is hilarious, right? Uh actually let’s put put that on my uh bar. And why would you want uh Deepwater Knight faction, right? This is required. You need a warmly plus to be able to pretty much max out if you’re an Exar uh to be able to uh do the fiery avenger, which is the next stage of the uh paladin uh sword quest, right? Uh which is This is you know it’s going to be a little bit of work. I mean I’ve been I’ve been killing these guys for a few moments and I’m only you know getting like 10 per. Now this guy’s These guys are clerics. I’m in the cleric guild right now and Panya just slaughtering everybody that uh is not a guild master, right? And uh obviously they’re going to heal a lot more. Now I could be stunning and stuff, right? But you know how I am. I’m lazy. Might as well just run them out of mana cuz you stun them they’re going to cast again. They’re going to stun them again. Just might as well just wear them down. Now the cool thing is you know I’m paladin, right? I can just like super heal like all the damage they’ve done. And uh it’s like a joke, really. So not too bad. All right, some of these are blue. Most of them are you know no you know like a gray con so they’re not going to get any anything out of them. Uh but you can see there we got 10 faction for that guy. He was quite a fight. Now this guy should give 50 faction if I re- if I remember what his normal was. His faction went down to uh so he’s he’s not going to be uh you know the huge hit that he used to be, but uh definitely uh uh definitely nice if you’re on live and you’re trying to do this quest. You can just go and uh schwack him and get uh get it done in like one or two kills, I think. But uh I’m going to show where we’re going to go back to the How did I How did I grab it? We’re going to go back to the uh the Siri here. Now, there’s 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I think nine mobs in this area that are all 10 each. So, that goes pretty quick and stuff like that, but I kind of want to fight I kind of fight to this guy, kill him, and then go back. Seems to be like one of the uh the best routes I’ve found, but I mean, I’m sure there’s more you can like go through here and do. But, we’ll go back and show that in here in just a second. I messed my my UI up. Let me uh lock this window, maybe. There we go. I I hate that you can just like accidentally somehow randomly grab those things when they’re not locked. It’s just so hilarious. All right, and this guy is just about to hit the ground. Let’s see what we get. Uh uh he’s a 100, so that is actually uh that is worth it. So, he’s worth the So, he’s worth 10 of these normal It’s right. Uh but, he’s going to have like a 6-minute respawn here in the uh I’m not even in instance. I’m in open world. Uh so, he’s he’s about a 6-minute respawn, so we’re going to kill him and uh come back and kill him again. So, that’s uh you know, 20 of him to finish what we need, right? So, keep that in mind. That’s you know, you need 2,000 faction. Um Well, actually, it’s probably more than 20 because we’re negative, right? Yeah, it goes negative 2,000, I believe. And this here is a frog. I should have one of these as like Yeah, here we go. Yeah, so negative 4,000. So, even needed any more. Jeez. Uh definitely uh it’s definitely a grind. I’m not I’m like I’m not joking here. All right, that one should take us to here. Yeah, and these guards are all like gray. I mean, you don’t even have to worry about them. I’m doing it on the lower difficulty uh just because there’s no benefit of doing it on any other difficulty. So, keep that in mind when you’re uh doing these things, right? Don’t waste your time if you don’t have to, right? So, this guy right here uh these two right here. Now, sometimes they attack, sometimes they don’t. They’re like level 14, but uh these ones are worth five. This one should be worth 10. And you just sell all the weapons when you’re done. There you go, another five, and then there’s two more right here. Like so. And then we can go back through here. There’s this guy right here. A guard here. Now, I I would do this uh you know, fairly higher level. I would not uh went here before I uh Now, you can see in this room over here where this is where the Shadow Knight Guild is, there’s no NPCs in there. And there’s this roaming guy right here. Let’s just swag her real quick. It’s worth 10 faction. Just one shotting these guys is fun. But, there’s nothing else there. So, we then we take the teleporter back. Uh and then we’re popping right here. Now, I think there was a guy here, but I might have already killed him. And so, we just go through here. And then we’re back into this area, which if I remember correctly, if I go straight, there is a Necromancer Guild right here. Now, these guys haven’t respawned yet since I killed them, but uh there is uh like four guards, a guy here, and then a romer over here. And then that’s everything inside of here. Now, these might These are These are all spell guys from what I can tell. So, they’re not going to They’re not going to be worth anything and the guild masters are like unkillable, so you can ignore them. And then to get back to the cleric guy, you just go back through this teleporter. And then zoom out a little bit. So, his friend is already respawned, so it’s already I mean, he might be on a faster respawn. So, you can run through here. There’s Now, there’s guards that spawn in here also. Uh they’re slightly higher level than the previous guards that we just like one shot. Um but they’re all like skeletons, so like they’re uh they’re slay I believe that we we could slay on dead while I’m I haven’t seen one, I don’t think, but they’re undead, so they should be able to slay them. I have I don’t have a single slay this whole session. Oh, there’s some slays. All right, what is that on? Spirit chanter, right? So, then the mob right here. So, we can come back in here. Now, this guy’s a cleric, so we can just start swacking on him. Now, I believe he was 10, but his friend is is 100, so uh definitely uh definitely the fastest way to do it I found. Uh like the wiki talks about killing sharks and stuff, and I did not find any sharks that resembled uh the quest that it was talking about for the uh barnacle armor and stuff like that, so I don’t believe that was going to be worth any time. Uh if you look at the wiki, let me bring this in real quick. Oh, his friend spawned. Perfect. Um so, you can see here like it’s the zones to raise the fraction. You can go to Pnaeoul, you know, right here. Uh there’s this guy here you can go kill. And you can kill the keeper keeper of tomes. He doesn’t even spawn, so there’s a lot of out of error stuff. I think they just copied the P99 wiki. And uh that’s that, but uh there’s a lot more to it than that. Uh but these are all those guys in the beginning we killed. And it doesn’t even mention this guy here. So, um I might try to update that. >> [laughter] >> I might not. So, um you know, it takes a lot It takes a lot of work to edit a wiki. I’ll tell you that. And then uh those guys have a whole whole lot of trouble. Uh or not a whole lot of trouble, whole lot of work ahead of them updating the wiki and it just uh it’s not my thing. But that’s you know, I’m going to be using the wiki for a lot of my videos. But that’s pretty much it. Like um I’m just going to be grinding this for a few hours. Uh I’m still I’m almost threatening. So, at least at least 3,000 faction to go. Uh so, that’s not too bad. Um but uh I’m going to be doing that but I just want to show how how I’m getting the faction because in the next uh video should be the fiery avenger. And uh we are going to be going uh pretty much straight through it as pretty fast. Uh we’re going to be doing uh uh it’s it’s a It’s a very simple quest considering how how my own how uh detailed Soulfire was. This one is uh literally kill two dragons, but we’ve already killed all the dragons on the video uh in the in all these videos. We’ve done uh Bag Yandox. So, that’s how you get the books for that quest. And then well, we’ll go through the rest, do the uh lich part together and the oracle part and then we’ll uh go to Sky cuz I already have uh the Ghoul Bane and Soulfire. So, we’re pretty much done with the quest as it is. So, there we go. Uh that’ll be the next video. Uh hopefully uh this will be a This is This should be like it really I’m going to try to do them on the same day. That’s my goal. That’s my goal right now. Have this video come out and then uh like a two or three hours later have that video come out. So, uh we’ll see. Well, thank you very much for watching and please have a fantastic day.